Re: Ohio Post Election Audits

From: Ron Olson <ron_at_caseohio_dot_org> Date: Thu Apr 24 2008 - 06:41:39 CDT · >> Sec Brunner expressed an interest in details of how our recommended

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-------------- Original message from Arthur Keller <voting@kellers.org>:
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There's a big difference between a demonstration program and a production
quality system that can handle any ballot as well as an election management
system for specifying those ballots and aggregating the results from
precincts.

The OVC demo illustrates what an open source system can do.  It's not
production quality, nor is it federally certified.

That being said, I'd like to see progressive Secretaries of State, such as
Ohio's Brunner and California's Bowen, get together to jointly commission
the development of a production quality system.

Best regards,
Arthur

At 5:35 AM -0400 4/22/08, Ron Olson wrote:
Brent,

I think most (or probably all of us) would like to see proprietary vendor
hardware/software replaced with open source systems.

My understanding is that Sec Brunner will not force voting system changes
unless there are funds to replace them.  Although open source would be less
expensive that vendor systems, they still take time and money.

In addition to a demo, a BOE would probably want
.         some information on how they would implement the ballot printer
.         what kind of PC & printers will work
.         who could support them
.         who else is using them (references)
.         etc

Is information like that available?

Thanks,

Ron

From: Brent Turner [mailto:brent@trealestate.net]
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 3:37 PM
To: CASE_OH@yahoogroups.com; CASE_SC@yahoogroups.com; 'CASE News'; 'OFEN';
OhioVigilance@yahoogroups.com; 'Ron Olson'
Subject: RE: [SPAM][CASE_OH] Ohio Post Election Audits

Ron-  Great work-    As usual, I hope you are mentioning your support for
open source systems-  Specifically the ballot printer downloadable here-
http://www.openvotingconsortium.org/ad/ovcdemo5.iso

It is crucial we get the first count correct-   Audits are great, but
obviously without a secure first count we are up against the wall from the
get go-

Also, certification of the systems is not appropriate with proprietary code-
SOS JB knows this-  Please vocalize your support for OS-

Best-  BT

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From: CASE_OH@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CASE_OH@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Ron Olson
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:33 AM
To: CASE_OH@yahoogroups.com; CASE_SC@yahoogroups.com; CASE News; OFEN;
OhioVigilance@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SPAM][CASE_OH] Ohio Post Election Audits

Members of the SoS's VRI workgroup on Voting Technology (along with some
audit experts) gave a presentation on the Ohio Audit White to Sec Brunner
and staff members on April 17.

The presentation can be found here:
http://www.caseohio.org/Documents/Reports/OH_Election_Systems_20080417.ppt
The white paper is here:
http://www.caseohio.org/Documents/Reports/Ohio_Audit_White_Paper_Feb_2008.pd
f
Cost estimates based on 2004/2006 are here:
http://www.caseohio.org/PageDetails/Audits/OH_Audit_Cost_Estimate_2004_2006.
xls

The presentation was well received and questions/discussion continued for
about hou r beyond the presentation.
Sec Brunner expressed an interest in details of how our recommended
statistical audit would be handled in practice (compared to a Tiered audit).

We expect to continue working on recommendations for November audits,
possibly including recommendations for
.         procedures for a statistical method for selecting precincts
.         the Observer Directive to make sure observers are not just
watching from a distance
.         BOE security plans
.         Chain of custody audits
Ron

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